Greedy Vet…

metal and chemical toxicityAn Experience with a Greedy Veterinarian

It’s very hard to find a decent caring honest vet these days. Vets have become similar to slimy used car salesman, by being deceitful and manipulative in a sick attempt to take money from the animal’s unsuspecting guardian. I know this may sound a bit harsh, perhaps it’s because I haven’t met the right vet yet. I am still searching but feel rather discouraged and sad..

Following is an experience that opened my eyes to the ways that vets cheat and lie.

Hocus Pocus Tests

My friend took her cat pal who was an elderly, handsome gentlemen (but still a cutie pie) at the time (age 15) to the vet. He had a blockage in his mouth that prevented him from eating.
This vet recommended a whole bunch of tests that ranged from bordtella, to heart worm, to thyroid to diabetes, for this cat. Although the cat did not show any symptoms for a number of diseases that it was tested for, the vets insisted that the tests be done.
All these test results turned out to be negative a few days later.

Rabies shot should never be given to a sick animal

The vet also gave her cat pal a rabies shot saying that under law he can’t see the animal unless it has its vaccines. Now it just doesn’t seem practical to vaccinate a sick animal. If the vet suspected her cat to have rabies, he could have done a blood test. Vaccines do not cure the disease rabies! So even if her cat pal had rabies, vaccinating it wouldn’t stop it from being transmitted.
But the vet did it anyway. I guess “treating the animal with compassion technique” was just thrown out the window.

Fear Technique

My friend was tired of this useless goose chase. The stress was too much since nothing was being accomplished so she took her cat pal home.
The vet then called her or should I say reprimanded her that her cat will starve to death, and suffer terribly if she didn’t bring him back for the operations and tests. As if he is god, and by some miraculous way bring the cat back to optimum health. He used the FEAR technique on her to bring her cat back to the vets.

The FEAR technique is one of the most common techniques used by vets. It’s a fairly simple psychological technique that is easy to use. When a Professional Vet D.V.M tells you that your cat will die, unless you bring it back, you tend to get scared and believe the vet. After all aren’t these high prestigious qualifications supposed to mean something??

More Lies

She took the cat back to the central hospital where many vets consulted with her.
The vets then began to tell my friend that her cat pal may have cancer, or it could be as simple as a salivary cyst. We hoped that the vet would use his professional expertise in making an educated assumption as to what the cat had. If it was a high probability of cancer, she was not interested in pursuing the matter.
Knowing this, he did not address the fact that the cat was anemic (sign of cancer). Instead he brushed it all off and said that it was an ingrown toe nail. He then suggested that an operation or biopsy should be done to see whether it was really cancer. He falsely re-assured us that it was a simple operation and it will be ok. At one point, he blankly stared out the window while we were about to ask more questions. Perhaps he founds his lies exhausting, and preferred to think about what he was going to have for supper.

More Tests, more money…

He mentioned that a heart test would be best at determining whether or not her cat would be stable to go thru the biopsy operation. After dishing out more money, we were re-assured that the EKG showed that the cat had a strong heart and the biopsy would be taken at a later date.

Unfortunately, after a bunch of hocus pocus tests, and more lies, the vets decided to go ahead and not only do a biopsies, they also removed the cat’s tooth without consulting the owner.
To make a long story short, her cat passed away. I hope that due to all the drugs that were given to him, he didn’t feel a thing and floated into heaven way before all this nonsense happened.

Contradictions

The vets then had the nerve to say that the cat had a weak heart and that’s what the tests showed, and that it wasn’t stable enough to undergo surgery. This was in direct contradiction to what they told us earlier. Then they said they were sure it was cancer!!
Now this is all before the biopsy had officially taken place. This is what led me to believe that this team of vets already knew that the cat had cancer!!!
They had taken advantage of my friend’s mental state anguish, and sadness, lied to her, and chosen to manipulate her into doing all these so-called tests. The sick thing is that they even had me convinced. I never really suspected that doctor’s especially a team of doctors with degrees and DVM’s can be such cold liars!

Scientific methods

Now any person with a scientific mind should know that when diagnosing or at least making a scientific assumption about anything, you would think about what would be the most probable cause and thus asses some tests or questions to test if your hypothesis was true.
This professional DVM doctor should have tested for what he suspected could be the most likely problem. But did he do this. No Of course not. Instead they said “uhhh, we don’t know”. “not sure” “gotta do more tests to know” “call back later”. Apparently vets are taught to run ridiculous tests on cats even though it had nothing to do with the cat’s illness.

Still Looking

Finding a vet is a very hard thing to do. I think it’s best to ask lots of questions. Find out his opinions on commercial food, vaccines, and chronic illness. Question his experiences. If he is rather evasive, quick to answer your questions as if they are not legit, then he is not the right vet. It’s always good to get a second opinion. Though in the above case, a second opinion wouldn’t have helped.
This was a major hospital that this cat pal stayed in, full of teams of vets, who all were just as evasive, sneaky and oddly perverted….

Finding the right vet is just as hard as finding the right guy.
And then I think of all the other dogs and cats not fortunate enough to enjoy such good health, whose immune systems struggle daily against the barrage of vaccines and drugs administered so often to them, and I think; so much more to do. So much getting out the word that another way is here. So many more animals to reach. The challenge seems overwhelming sometimes, but we have to keep at it. Dog by dog, cat by cat.
One animal at a time…….

 

We mistakenly think that because a DVM put up a ‘holilstic sign on their office that they are magically more ethical than other vets….think about it, if you’re a vet and see your income challenged by wholistic vets wouidln’t you convert? Yes, the same thing happens with medical doctors. We, as medical consumer have to put the brakes  on the idea that just because he/she has a PhD, DMV or what ever behind their name means they are magically more moral than the rest of us. We use to think this about our politicians and look where that got us. They are, snake oil salesmen first, until you have some evidence of morality. If the first thing they do is instill fear and guild than run for the door…don’t stop to collect $200 just go!…and if your lucky you wont have to stop on Park Place.

 

 

 

And then I think of all the other dogs and cats not fortunate enough to enjoy such good health, whose immune systems struggle daily against the barrage of vaccines and drugs administered so often to them, and I think; so much more to do. So much getting out the word that another way is here. So many more animals to reach. The challenge seems overwhelming sometimes, but we have to keep at it. Dog by dog, cat by cat.
One animal at a time…….

To answer your question it definitely depends on the veterinarian or the veterinary practice or both. There are some practices especially some of the corporate ones that pay veterinarians a base salary plus commission. This becomes a problem because this may cause some veterinarians to provide services that are based mainly on profit instead of the individual cases. There are also some practices that require their veterinarians to make a certain amount of money per visit which can put a lot of pressure on a veterinarian who would not normally base their service on profit. As for me personally I am unable to give service based on profit so that may effect my commission once I start working because I don’t believe in wasting a client’s money for my own financial gain. There are a few people in my class that feels that way as well. As far as different veterinary clinics charging more for services that all depends on many different factors. Increasing profits do play a role though. But other factors also include the overhead. For example one veterinary clinic may have state of the art equipment and will charge more than a clinic that has less “impressive equipment”. Also salaries and the amount of doctors on the premises contributes greatly to pricing as well. And in regards to some veterinary clinics requiring money up front this is unfortunately comes from individuals who have there dog treated then either don’t want to pay for their services or claiming they don’t have the money. So to avoid that most veterinary clinics have this policy to increase the likelihood that they will get their money. Unfortunately people who truly need payments suffer as well. Some advice to give you to minimize overpayment for services is to make sure your veterinarian gives you ALL options to treat your animal. Look into getting pet insurance. And don’t be afraid to get a second opinion if you feel that you are getting a run around many times Board certified veterinary specialists are great alternatives for second opinions and alot of people don’t realize they exist. Hope that helps

 

You bet vet bills are too high. Furthermore, every vet I have dealt with, some worse than others, is eager to “test” and prescribe or sell me any number of products at inflated prices. I understand the need to “make a living”, however vets have become as greedy as MDs (medical doctors), charging whatever the traffic will bear because the”traffic” has no choice. I shelter 4 cats of varying ages, all rescued in one way or another and I love them all. But I am disgusted with the “profession”. It has become like so many other areas of our society a money grubbing business. Why no where in this area is there even a hint of a low cost neuter-spay “clinic”…a donation of vet’s time for the sake of saving stray animals. As with human cancers, surgeries are recommended and performed even though the vet knows full well they do little to extend the life of an animal but only add to the expense and trauma for the pet. Thanks for listening.

I am able to go to an emergency room if I am sick, not insured, and someone will examine me, and possibly save my life. I can pay nothing, or request charity help. If my cat is sick and I can not pay a vet for his care, I have but one choice, and that is to watch him suffer at home and possibly die a slow and painful death.

 

If your pet isn’t feeling well, these jerks want $300 x-rays, $500 ultrasounds, $200 blood tests — which are always inconclusive — so instead of saying the issue could be two or three different things — it could be five or six — and they don’t want to make the call on what’s most likely so they can keep scheduling follow up appointments, etc. And if you decline anything, they get all pissy, walk off, and have an assistant come in with a release form saying you won’t do what they want.

 

Seems like a greedy vet if;

My last experience at this clinic was not so pleasant. I do dog rescue and took a dog in for spaying using a spay/neuter certificate – the certificate is to cover all charges of neutering/spaying. The dog’s spaying went fine but when I picked up the dog I noticed a $23 charge. I was told that she had vomited worms and had been treated w/ Nemix and would need another treatment in 3 weeks. It is 40 miles round trip, and I have extensive experience w/dogs, I asked if I could purchase the Nemix (a liquid in a needless syringe) & give it to her myself so I would not have to drive 40 miles. The vet said no he would not do that, I’d have to bring her in.He said it was because he “wouldn’t know what this dog who was 8 months old would weigh in 3 weeks so he wouldn’t know how much to give her unless she was brought in.” What a crock. I told my regular vet that and he laughed and GAVE me the liquid to give her without even seeing her. The McAdory vet just wanted to charge more money.

December 05, 2010 by Pauline in Birmingham, AL

 

Dropping rabies requirement for licensing: Greedy and dumb

Posted on August 19, 2009 by Scott Weese

Clallam County (Washington) is considering dropping the requirement that pets be vaccinated against rabies in order to get a license. It’s pretty clear that this is only based on a desire to get more people to pay for licenses. Sheriff Bill Benedict is quoted as saying “My view on this is, we’re leaving money on the table by not finding a way to get more people buying licenses.”

This money-driven mindset makes no sense, and raises the question “what is the purpose of licensing pet?” Is it only to provide a source of government income (in other words, a tax on pet ownership), or is it for greater purposes such as helping protect the pet and human population?

Another quote from Benedict: “You would still be required to have your pet vaccinated, but that would be more of an issue between the pet owner and the veterinarian.” This isn’t an issue solely between the pet owner and the veterinarian. Rabies vaccination is still required by law. Veterinarians do not have a mandate or power to require vaccination and enforce the law. With this “You still need have your pet vaccinated (wink, wink, nod, nod)” approach, the municipal government is essentially saying, “We really just want you to pay us for a license. We don’t really care whether your pet is vaccinated against rabies or not as long as you give us money.”

A local veterinarian wrote to the commission that “Licensing pets is sometimes the only reason an owner will get rabies vaccines… Rabies vaccinance is the law of the state, the law of the county. Licensing, in my view, is less important than vaccinating for rabies and may facilitate even more rabies cases.

Well said. The county may get more money because more people will get licenses, but it’s certainly possible that fewer pets will get vaccinated. Just one rabies exposure could negate the increased revenue from more licenses based on the high costs of rabies post-exposure treatment (let alone the risk of disease, stress of exposure, costs required for investigating cases…). Since all those costs would come from other peoples’ budgets, however, I doubt they’re too concerned.

Benedict also stated “Most pet owners — in fact the vast majority — if they’re responsible enough to get a license, they’re responsible enough to get a pet vaccinated.”

Good thing he’s not a lawyer. It seems to me that he just shot his argument down. If the majority of pet owners that are responsible enough to get a license are also responsible enough to get a pet vaccinated, then why is this change required? An attempt to increase cashflow is not a good reason to change rules that are designed to protect the public and pets from a fatal disease.

Greedy vet. Professional vet.

 

You had a strange dream?

You have many strange dreams My Black Cat. What was this one about?

Well, it started off with a single ewe just before the lambing season. She was pregnant with twins and every day made her way to the back door of the farmhouse and bleated incessantly.

It was cold outside.

Before long, the whole flock of sheep, being sheep, followed her to the back door and all bleated incessantly in unison.

Then the same thing started at night, so day and night there was continuous bleating outside the farmhouse. The sheep developed some kind of rota so that some slept while they others were bleating, so they did not become sleep deprived.

The farmer, his wife and children became very sleep deprived and none of the work on the farm got done properly.

Eventually, the farmer had to send for The Sheep Whisperer to find out what it was that the sheep wanted.

The Sheep Whisperer had some bad news for the farmer.

The sheep were fed up rolling about in pain outside in the cold during the lambing season. They all wanted Caesarian Sections in a warm, comfy operating theatre.

The farmer was dismayed, so he called in The Vet.

The Vet said sheep should have a choice in the way their lambs were brought into the world, and so he would book them all in for elective sections.

Now, The Farmer was a wise man and quite frugal too. He was damned if he was going to pay the vet’s bill for all these Caesarian Sections. He was aware The Vet, in the name of “sheep choice,” would become very rich while he, The Farmer, would become very poor. There was after all, no National Sheep Health Service. If he had to fork out the money and avoid becoming poor, the cost of lamb and wool would go through the roof and no-one would buy it. Eventually no farmer would farm sheep. The butchers would not buy lamb, and wool would not be sheared.

Sheep would become extinct.

Extinct. Apart from the National Collection of Sheep kept in a zoo.

So he called in another vet.

The Second Vet said the whole idea of letting healthy sheep decide to choose Caeserian Section for themselves as a mode of delivery was ridiculous. He explained the risks of anaesthesia, wound infection, a scarred uterus and a whole host of other medical and ethical reasons that the farmer didn’t understand.

Furthermore, The Vet said that, since sheep are sheep, soon every pregnant ewe in the country would be demanding a CS and there would not be enough vets available to cope with the demand, and eventually all The Farmers themselves would need to learn how to do the surgery and anesthesia themselves.

The Sheep Whisperer was then called back to explain all these complications to the bleating sheep.

Fortunately sheep are not stupid. They understood what the Sheep Whisperer was telling them. They stopped bleating morning, noon and night and went back to their fields where they delivered their perfect little twins and triplets without any fuss. Only the occasional sheep required a Caesarian Section for medical reasons.

And so The First Vet did not become so rich that he could retire after a year or too.

The Second Vet continued happily with his practice as before.

The farmer did not go bust and continued to tend his sheep.

The price of lamb and wool did not go through the roof.

Sheep did not become extinct.

And we still see lambs gamboling in the fields every spring.

That was quite a strange dream, My Black Cat. I wonder if you are having some kind of premonition or something?

 

 

Signs of a greedy vet

What to look for

How much they stand to lose of alternate is found

Do you trust your vet

The tole of greedy vets

Holistic vet are no different

You be the judge and remember its not just your pet that will suffer

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